in an economy from west palm beach florida, atomic research group. greg, i feel like governor romney is the first debate had a major momentum and maybe squandered a couple of opportunities in the second and third debate bringing us to where we are right now. >> it may have slowed his momentum but these gains have not been reversed. i would say coming out of denver he basically made this a tight race and i'm beginning to suspect, charles, this election could turn out with mitt romney winning the popular vote but losing the electoral college. that is not out of the question. charles: having said that, another scenario could be a have read about a dead heat. he loses ohio but wins virginia, this seems like an endless possible day of outcomes right now and even the experts are having a really hard time trying to figure this out. >> tell me about it. they could have a story where we don't know the winner on wednesday morning a week from now, it could be several days of recounts. for the country don't think it't is good to have an outcome that will be that